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Robert William Minter

Male 1890 - 1968  (77 years)

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  • Name Robert William Minter 
    Birth 19 Dec 1890  Beckenham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Death 21 Mar 1968  Bromley, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    Cremation 27 Mar 1968  Honor Oak Crematorium (Southwark) Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Reference Number 897 
    _UID DF273FBB13194A209F2272E940569EF0D672 
    Notes 
    • It seems very likely that with Gertrude Alice WEEDON, Robert was the father of William Joseph Minter who was born on 15 March 1915 at 59 Blandford Road, Beckenham. William's birth certificate gives the following information:
      Father: Robert William MInter, a carrier's carman
      Mother: Gertrude Alice Weedon, a domestic servant
      Informants: R W Minter, father, 9 Green Lane, Penge; G A Weedon, mother, 9 Green Lane, Penge.
      This information ties in well with Robert and Gertrude's story prior to 1915:
      - in the 1911 census Robert was living with his parents at 77 Parish Lane, Penge which is literally just round the corner from 9 Green Lane. Robert's occupation was carrier's carman
      - at the same census, 1911, Gertrude (18, born Penge) was a servant at 87 Ridsdale Road, Anerley which is a mile or so from Green Lane.
      Although Robert married in 1918 and appears in the 1921 census (see below), William Joseph wasn't with him.
      Gertrude appears to have married Charles E LOWE in Q2 1916 (Lewisham 1d/2261). She was in the 1921 census as Gertrude Alice LOWE (wife, 28y 7m, married, born Penge) with 5 children all surnamed LOWE: Robert Edward (8y 1m, born Farnborough, Kent, whole time school), Joseph William (6y 5m, born Beckenham, whole time school), Charles Albert (4y 6m, born Sydenham, Kent), Gertrude Frances (3y 1m, born Sydenham, Kent) and Alice May (1y 9m, born Sydenham, Kent). The last three of these children were registered as LOWE but Robert Edward was registered as WEEDON (Q2 1913 Bromley 2a/1164) and Joseph William was almost certainly the William Joseph MINTER who was registered in Q2 1915, Bromley 2a/1024.
      The census page notes that Gertrude's husband is in St Johns Hospital, Lewisham.
      So although it isn't 100% definite, William Joseph Minter was probably Robert William Minter's illegitimate son. I've put a copy of the latter's birth certificate on Robert William's page on Minter Exchange.

      1921 census: at 22 Argyle Road, Penge, Surrey (all MINTER), Robert (head, 28y 6m, married, born Beckenham, painter with Wills of South Norwood), Jane (wife, 23y 4m, born Walworth, home duties), Lucy (daughter, 2y 8m, born Penge) and Violet (daughter, 1y 3m, born Penge).

      1939 Register: at 6 Queen Adelaide Road, Penge, Kent
      Minter, Robert W born 19 Dec 1891 *, married, general labourer - unemployed
      Minter, Jane born 3 Feb 1898, married, unpaid domestic duties
      --- 1 closed record ---
      Minter, John F born 7 Apr 1925, single, junior assistant
      Minter, later MANZI, Marie born 5 May 1929, at school
      --- 1 closed record ---

      * a year out - registered in Q1 1891 so probably born in 1890.
    Person ID I897  Ash, Kent
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2024 

    Father John Fagg Minter,   b. 24 Oct 1860, 10 St Peters Street, Folkestone, Kent Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 Feb 1919, 11 Raleigh Road, Penge, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 58 years) 
    Mother Sarah Ann HUTCHING,   b. Jun 1859, Moreton, Essex Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Dec 1930, Croydon RD Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 71 years) 
    Marriage Dec 1885  Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Family ID F199  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Jane Emily GIBSON,   b. 3 Feb 1898, Walworth, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Feb 1953, Bromley, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years) 
    Marriage 5 Mar 1918  Register Office, Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Married by certificate. Robert William Minter, 25, bachelor, builder's labourer late a Private R W Kent Regt of 11 Rayleigh Road, Penge, father John Fagg Minter, stone-mason. Jane Emily Gibson. 20. spinster of 18 Arpley Road, Penge, father Joseph Gibson, dock labourer. Witnesses D White, J Gibson, M A Heasman.
    Children 
     1. Lucy J Minter,   b. Dec 1918, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Sep 1937, Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 18 years)
     2. Violet L Minter,   b. 12 Mar 1920, Penge, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Feb 2001, Bromley RD Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years)
     3. Robert William Minter,   b. 19 Apr 1922, Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Jun 2008, Dudley, West Midlands Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 86 years)
     4. John F E Minter,   b. 7 Apr 1925, Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Mar 1942, Bromley, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 16 years)
     5. Marie Ellen Minter,   b. 2 May 1929, Croydon, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 Feb 2008, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 78 years)
     6. Sylvia Kathleen Minter
     7. Stella Anne Minter,   b. 1 Mar 1944, Bromley RD Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 25 Nov 2013, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 69 years)
    Family ID F175  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 4 May 2016 

    Family 2 Lily WILSON,   b. 25 Sep 1905   d. Dec 1981, Eastbourne RD Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years) 
    Marriage Dec 1954  Surrey N RD Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Family ID F1431  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 29 Jun 2016 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 19 Dec 1890 - Beckenham, Kent Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 21 Mar 1968 - Bromley, Kent Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    William Joseph Minter born 1915
    William Joseph Minter born 1915
    Almost certainly the son of Robert William Minter (1890). His mother married Charles E Lowe in 1916 and William Joseph adopted the surname Lowe.

  • Sources 
    1. [S25] BMD list, Q1 1891 Bromley 2a/423. (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S25] BMD list.

    3. [S289] www.deceasedonline.com, April 2012 and later.

    4. [S28] Marriage certificate (copy).

    5. [S3] BMD index, Q4 1954 Surrey N 5g/612. (Reliability: 3).