 1851 - 1927 (75 years)
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Name |
Harry Norman KILLICK |
Birth |
10 Aug 1851 |
Edenbridge, Kent [1, 2] |
Gender |
Male |
_UID |
C3D40044EC1744D3AB2395E42529893346C3 |
Death |
9 Feb 1927 |
Tuakau, New Zealand [2, 3] |
Notes |
- There are two Harry Norman Killick birth registrations in the index, both in Q3 1851 at Sevenoaks, one with ref 5/482, the other 5/486.
1881 census: Harry N KILLICK (29, retired farmer, born Edenbridge, Kent) was a visitor at "Highfields", West Street, East Grinstead, Sussex, home of George Searle HEAD, his wife Fanny & thei family. Fanny was Harry's sister.
Harry's wife and daughter Maud were counted in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. His son, Roper KILLICK was with his grandmother Ann ROPER (82) in Greenstreet, Lynsted, Kent.
1891 census: Harry not found. His wife and daughter were still in Chelsea with their father/grandfather. Son Roper, now 18, born Chelsea (sic) was at 2 Stafford Street, Mayfair, London with James SMITH, his wife and 2 daughters. Roper is recorded as an employee, a draper's assistant.
1901 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Flora E KILLICK, 55, born Blackfriars, London) was with her son Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at The Broadway, Newbury, Berkshire.
When daughter Maud married on 30 March 1901 she named her father as Harry Norman KILLICK, farmer, perhapssuggesting he was alive.
1911 census: Harry not found. His wife (as Elizabeth Flora KILLICK, 66, married 38 years, 2 children both living, born Blackfriars, London) was with Roper KILLICK (cf) and family at "Worle House", Beachfield Avenue, Newquay, Cornwall.
Harry Norman KILLICK is a mystery! His wife lived until she was 86 but I can't find his death or indeed anything about him after the 1881 census. See below...
May 2017: email correspondence with Raymond Killick, in which he writes:
"Harry Norman Killick, was my great grandfather. My late father Henry Cecil Killick b 20.12.1919 d.30.09.2013 aged 94. His father Cecil Eden (abbreviated from Edenbridge which has been passed down to my brother Robert Henry Eden Killick and to my son Duane Eden Killick) Cecil Eden Killick was a son of Harry Norman Killick.
Harry Norman Killick emigrated to New Zealand in June 1889. He married Caroline Bertha Browne b 1858 m 1886 NZ d 22.11.1902 I am not sure if his wife was Bertha Browne or Brown. My father once told me that a man came asking for his father (Cecil). My father asked who was that man? My grandfather replied, you wouldn't want to know him, he was a bastard. By what I have found out from another source in England, it appears Harry Norman may have married again without divorcing Flora Elizabeth. So my grandfather may have had step siblings he never knew about in England. It's all quite a puzzle. My Killick ancestors are interred inside a church in Edenbridge, I visited in 1971."
This answers some of the questions concering Harry after the 1881 England census, but raises two others:
- if Harry Noman emigrated in June 1889, how did he manage to marry in New Zealand in 1886 findmypast.co.uk has an image of an index to passport applications which includes an entry for 16 August 1888 for H N Killick - almost certainly this Harry Norman I should think.
- the index record in NZ MDM online for Harry Norman Killick's marriage in 1886 gives his bride's name as Caroline Bertha Campbell. There's a death index record of 1903 for Caroline Barker Killick. So was she Brown(e) or Campbell (or both, through multiple marriages) and Bertha or Barker?
Footnote:
Ancestry's England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 has a record for the death of Harry Norman Killick on 23 May 1947 in Richmond Surrey but the corresponding BMD index record shows his age at death as 49 - so this was probably the Harry Norman Killick whose birth was registered in Kensington in Q3 1896.
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Person ID |
I5320 |
Ash, Kent |
Last Modified |
6 Aug 2025 |
Father |
Richard KILLICK, b. 14 Mar 1818, Edenbridge, Kent d. 2 Mar 1858, Edenbridge, Kent (Age 39 years) |
Mother |
Mary SEARLE, b. Abt 1821, Carshalton, Surrey d. 4 Oct 1856, Edenbridge, Kent (Age ~ 35 years) |
Marriage |
Jun 1839 |
Epsom RD [4] |
Family ID |
F1480 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 1 |
Elizabeth Flora DIXON, b. 29 Mar 1846, Blackfriars, London d. Dec 1932, Plympton RD (Age 86 years) |
Marriage |
12 Nov 1872 |
St Luke, Chelsea, London [5] |
- Married after banns. Harry Norman Killick, 21 bachelor, farmer of Chilgrove, Westdean, Chichester, fater Richard Killick, gentleman. Elizabeth Flora Dixon, 26, spinster of 14 Markham Square, father Richard Dixon, clerk. Both signed. Witnesses Richard Dixon, Mary Ann Dixon, Eliza E Luck [or Such?].
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Children |
| 1. Roper KILLICK, b. Bef 5 Sep 1873, Chilgrove, Sussex d. 30 Aug 1928, Newquay, Cornwall (Age ~ 54 years) |
| 2. Maude KILLICK, b. Mar 1875, Westbourne (Sussex) RD d. 19 Aug 1932, Cheam, Surrey (Age ~ 57 years) |
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Family ID |
F1470 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
8 Mar 2017 |
Family 2 |
Caroline Bertha BROWNE, b. 28 Aug 1855, St Pancras, London d. 22 Nov 1902, New Zealand (Age 47 years) |
Marriage |
25 Aug 1886 |
All Saints Church, Palmerston North, New Zealand [2, 6] |
Children |
| 1. Nina KILLICK, b. 24 Apr 1887, New Zealand d. 5 May 1959, New Zealand (Age 72 years) |
| 2. Cecil Eden KILLICK, b. 20 Oct 1889, New Zealand d. 18 Nov 1947, New Zealand (Age 58 years) |
| 3. Ivy KILLICK, b. 28 Jan 1892, Korboyan, Victoria, Australia d. 16 Feb 1971, New Zealand (Age 79 years) |
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Family ID |
F1476 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
20 Mar 2020 |
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Sources |
- [S3] BMD index, Q3 1851 Sevenoaks 5/482 and 5/486. (Reliability: 4).
- [S404] Raymond Killick, May 2017 and later.
- [S182] NZ online BMD index, July 2010 and later, ref no. 1927/472, aged 75. (Reliability: 4).
- [S3] BMD index, Q2 1839 Epsom 4/87. (Reliability: 4).
- [S399] London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936.
- [S182] NZ online BMD index, July 2010 and later, ref no. 1886/2048. (Reliability: 4).
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