 Abt 1812 - 1848 (~ 36 years)
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| Name |
Robert Cossey Minter |
| Birth |
Abt 1812 |
| Gender |
Male |
| _UID |
8A6BF6876C1E4314AC773E858993926B52FA |
| Death |
20 Dec 1848 |
Union House, St Faiths, Norfolk [1] |
| Burial |
25 Dec 1848 |
Rackheath, Norfolk |
| Notes |
- September 2007
The inclusion of Robert Cossey Minter as a child of Robert Minter and Lydia Cossey is based on several pieces of circumstantial evidence. In view of some of the information gathered, perhaps the most likely probability is that Robert was born to Lydia Cossey before she married Robert Minter. The facts that have been gathered are as follows:
1. When he died on 20 December 1848 (as Robert Minter) Robert's age was said to be 36. The only other indication of Robert's age is from the 1841 census which gives it as 25 but exact ages of adults were not required at the 1841 census. If Robert was 36 when he died in 1848 his birth year would have been 1811 or 1812 - Robert Minter and Lydia Cossey were married in September 1811.
2. Robert is known to have married Alithea Curtis. The only record of their marriage that has been found is an IGI entry for the marriage at Rackheath on 23 March 1834 of Elitha (sic) Curtis and Robert CONEY - probably a mis-trancription of Cossey.
3. At the marriage of Robert and Lydia Minter's son William in 1834, one of the witnesses was Robert Cossey. It's possible that Robert witnessed this marriage as William's brother.
4. Robert and Alithea (Curtis) named their son born on 24 April 1844 William. It seems highly probable that this was the individual who on 21 April 1881 married as William Cossey Minter. Although his age doesn't quite tie-up (he said he was 34, implying a birth year of 1846/47), he gave his father's name as Robert Minter deceased, farm labourer.
5. Both Robert and his wife Alithea died young, from TB, in 1848 and 1847 respectively. By then they had had a number of children, although exactly how many is uncertain. Certainly by the time of the 1841 census they had three, Robert (5), Mary (2) and Rebecca (2). By the time of the 1851 census, their parents having died, some of the children seem to have been in the Horsham St Faith Workhouse. Altogether there were 7 Minter children there, Elizabeth (8), Lydia (7), Robert (15), William (6), Samuel (10) and William (9), all born in Salhouse. Some of these were almost certainly Robert and Alithea's children but the Mary who lived with Robert and Alithea in 1841 was probably the Mary (age given as 15) who was living with her grandparents Robert and Lydia Minter. If this was the case, it would reinforce the idea that Robert Cossey Minter was the son of Lydia Cossey, ie (by adoption) the son of Robert and Lydia Minter.
May 2008: email contact with David Brown of North Walsham. His wife's maiden name was CURTIS and she shares an ancestor with Alithea Curtis. David has provided details of Alithea's ancestry. David originally believed that Alithea's married name was COSSEY rather than MINTER because (to quote David) "My wife's distant cousin Ann Foakes (nee Curtis) made contact with someone called Linda who is Alitha's 4Xgreat-grand-daughter. It was she who first reported "Alitha's daughter Rebecca Cossey maried William Tungate....."".
David also says "Concerning Rebecca, daughter of Alitha, I have from somewhere gathered her date of birth as 10.6.1839 at Salhouse and Rebecca MINTER is the only girl fitting those facts at the 1841 census so presumably that was the surname in use. However, it was Rebecca COSSEY whose birth was registered at St Faith's June Quarter 1839 and who married William Charles TUNGATE (marriage registered December Quarter 1864 at Blofield) with whom she had five children in Norfolk and a further four after moving to Yorkshire. There must be a strong inclination to say that they're the same person - the problem is to prove it."
I have since discovered that Robert and Alithea's second child Mary was also (probably) registered as COSSEY, in Q4 1837 at St Faith's 13/87.
February 2016: email from Linda Ferguson, the 'someone called Linda' referred to above. Linda has sent copies of (a) the marriage register entry for the 23 March 1834 marriage between Robert COSSEY and Elitha CURTIS and (b) the 10 June 1839 birth certificate of Rebecca COSSEY.
March 2016: email from Denise Nelson:
"My gg grandparents are Robert Cossey Minter and Alethea Curtis; their son William Cossey Minter married to Mary Peacock are my g grandparents; their son Harry Sidney Minter married to Elizabeth Sophia Jollands are my grandparents and their daughter Elizabeth is my mum."
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| Person ID |
I382 |
Fritton, Norfolk |
| Last Modified |
19 Jan 2017 |
| Father |
Robert Minter, b. Bef 6 Sep 1784, Fritton, Norfolk d. Mar 1874, St Faith's, Norwich, Norfolk (Age ~ 89 years) |
| Mother |
Lydia COSSEY, b. Abt 1785, Hassingham, Norfolk d. Bef 29 Jul 1855, Rackheath, Norfolk (Age ~ 70 years) |
| Marriage |
30 Sep 1811 |
Hassingham, Norfolk [2] |
- Extracted by Vivien Teasdale from Hassingham Parish Register:
By banns, Robert of Saxlingham Nethergate, Lydia of Hassingham. Witnesses Norah or Noah Aggas and Mary Curtis.
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| Family ID |
F54 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family |
Alethea CURTIS, b. Abt 1813 d. 3 Sep 1847, Salhouse, Norfolk (Age ~ 34 years) |
| Marriage |
23 Mar 1834 |
Rackheath, Norfolk [3] |
- The IGI record gives the names as Elitha Curtis and Robert CONEY - probably a mis-transcription of Cossey.
February 2016: Linda Ferguson, Alithea Curtis's gt gt gt granddaughter, has a copy of the Rackheath, Norfolk parish register in which the marriage is recorded. The details are:
Robert Cossey of this parish single man and Elitha Curtis of this parish single woman were married in this church by banns with consent of [blank] this twenty third day of March in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty four. Both parties marked, as did the witnesses Edward Stone (who witnessed other marriages around this time) and William Waters.
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| Children |
| | 1. Robert Minter, b. Abt 1836, Salhouse, Norfolk d. Bef 29 May 1851, St Faiths RD (Age ~ 15 years) |
| | 2. Mary Minter, b. Dec 1837, Salhouse, Norfolk d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 3. Rebecca Minter, b. 10 Jun 1839, Salhouse, Norfolk d. Dec 1921, Hull RD (Age 82 years) |
| | 4. William Cossey Minter, b. 24 Apr 1844, Salhouse, Norfolk d. Jun 1899, Hull RD (Age 55 years) |
| | 5. Alithea Minter, b. 20 May 1847, Salhouse, Norfolk d. Yes, date unknown |
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| Family ID |
F82 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
9 Feb 2016 |
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| Sources |
- [S19] Death certificate (copy).
- [S2] IGI.
- [S99] Parish register of Rackheath, Norfolk (via Linda Ferguson, Feb 2016).
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