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Johann Friederich August Franz HÖNICKE

Male Abt 1799 - Yes, date unknown

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  • Name Johann Friederich August Franz HÖNICKE 
    Birth Abt 1799  Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 4C251ED19C5D469787E88A85EB5E3F639F92 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • 1851 census: at 12 Guildford Street, Amwell, Clerkenwell, London, John HONICKE (head of family, married, 52, book binder, born Germany), Harriet HONICKE (wife, 45, born Wingham, Kent), Frederick HONICKE (son, 9, born Christ Church, Middlesex) and Sarah MINTER (widow, 57, born Margate, Kent).
      The identity of this Sarah Minter is uncertain. At first I thought she was probably Harriet's mother Sarah, originally Sarah Emptage, then married to David Holness (Harriet's father) and finally married to Henry Belsey Minter. However, Sarah Emptage was born about 1776 so would have been about 75 (not 57) in 1851 and, as Cliff Minter points out, it seems unlikely that Sarah would have travelled to London at such an age, to be returned to Wingham seven years later to be buried. Additionally, Sarah appears as a 'visitor' with Harriet and her husband - on the same census page another individual is identified as 'wife's mother' so the enumerator seems to have been careful to get such details right.
      Another possibility is that Sarah was the Sarah Minter born of Henry Minter and Sarah (Philpott) on 4 April 1794 and christened at St John's Thanet on 11 May 1794. 1794 would tally exactly with the age attributed to Sarah Minter in 1851. There are two objections to this idea. Firstly, Sarah is shown in the 1851 census as a widow - Cliff Minter suggests this may have been simply because Sarah did not want to be identified as a spinster. Secondly, there is no known connection between Henry Minter and Sarah (Philpott) (who belong to the 'Ash Minters') and Harriet Honicke nee Minter of the 'Ickham Minters'.
    Person ID I329  Ickham, Kent
    Last Modified 6 May 2010 

    Family Harriet HOLNESS,   b. Bef 14 Apr 1805, Wingham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown 
    Marriage 6 Sep 1840  St Bride Fleet Street, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    • Married after banns. Johann Friederich August Franz Hönicke, full age, bachelor, book binder of 36 Warwick Lane, father Charles Hönicke, book binder. Harriet Holness, full age, spinster, father David Holness, farmer. Both signed full names. Witnesses Gottfrid Schmidt and Sarah Good.
    Children 
     1. Frederick John Charles HÖNICKE,   b. Mar 1842, Christ Church, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    Family ID F665  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 6 May 2010 

  • Sources 
    1. [S108] London Metropolitan Archive at Ancestry.co.uk, October 2009 and later, Q3 1840 W London 2/254. (Reliability: 3).