 1889 - 1973 (83 years)
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| Name |
Elsie Gwendoline Minter |
| Birth |
7 Jan 1889 |
Ash, Kent [1] |
| Christening |
7 Apr 1889 |
Ash next Sandwich, Kent [2] |
| Gender |
Female |
| Reference Number |
163 |
| _UID |
F3A2039DC3BB468DB35A893419A86976F09B |
| Death |
1973 |
Melbourne, Australia [3] |
| Notes |
- 1911 census: Elsie Gwendoline (22, single, born Ash next Sandwich) was staying at The Warden Hotel, 105 High Street, Rye, Sussex. She worked for the Post Office as a postal sorting clerk & telegraphist.
Elsie was witness at a trial at the Old Bailey on 10 September 1912. The following is from www.oldbaileyonline.org:
ATKINS, Maria (39, laundress) , forging and uttering, knowing the same to be forged, a certain order for the payment of 10s., with intent to defraud.
Mr. H. T. Hewett prosecuted.
VIOLET KNOWLES . On July 15 I asked prisoner, who was living with me at 19, Sirdar Road, Notting Dale, Kensington, to take in a telegraphic money order, which I was expecting, and take care of it for me, and I would give her something for doing so. I then went out. Ten shillings money order produced is payable for me, and is signed "Violet Knowles, her mark." I never received that order; I did not sign it with my mark, nor did I authorise anybody to do so on my behalf. I next saw prisoner on the next morning, Tuesday, July 16, at 11.30; she was asleep; I woke her, and asked her if she had received the telegram, and where the telegram was. She seemed very dazed and stupid; she looked round and handed me a piece of blank brown paper. I threw it down and said'it was no good. I asked her would she tell me the amount of the order. She said it was for 10s. I asked her how much money she had left. She said it would he all right, and searched under the pillows and the corners of her bed, but there was not a copper in the room. I then called in a policeman, and she was arrested. Prisoner was quite sober when I first told her about the money order; she was not sober when I woke her up next day.
ELSIE GWENDOLINE MINTER , clerk, Norland Square Post Office. On July 16, between 8 and 9 a.m., prisoner tendered money order produced, saying "Will you cash this for me?"I asked her what was the sender's name, and she replied correctly. I then asked her to sign it; she said she could not write, could she make her cross. I said "You are Violet Knowles?"She said "Yes." She then made her cross, I paid her the 10s., and she went away.
Detective DONALD MACMILLAN, F Division. On July 16, at about 8.30 p.m., I was at the Notting Dale Police Station when prisoner was brought in and charged with forging a telegraphic order. She said, "I will stand all the racket of it, I took the letter in, and I changed it this morning and spent the money; it is nothing to do with
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Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I am guilty of it; I was quite drunk, and remember nothing of it; I never signed the order."
MARIA ATKINS (prisoner, not on oath). I am very sorry, I have never done it before.
Verdict, Guilty.
Prisoner was stated to be addicted to drink, and to have been four times convicted of drunkenness.
Sentence: Three months' hard labour."
Per findmypast.com Elsie Gwendoline, 28, departed in 1915 from Southampton for Adelaide, Australia.
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| Person ID |
I163 |
Ash, Kent |
| Last Modified |
15 Dec 2020 |
| Father |
Albert Edward Minter, b. 14 Sep 1860, Worth, Kent d. 30 Mar 1939, Ash, Kent (Age 78 years) |
| Mother |
Rosa Eastes CAVELL, b. 17 Feb 1861, Deal, Kent d. 1 Mar 1939, Eastry RD (Age 78 years) |
| Marriage |
20 Dec 1887 |
St Leonards Deal, Kent [1] |
- Married by banns. Albert a bachelor market gardener age 27 of Ash; Rosa a spinster age 26 of Wellington Road, Deal daughter of Thomas Eastes Cavell an accountant. sign/sign. Thos E Cavell, Celia H Cavell, Jessie A Cavell, G R witnesses.
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| Family ID |
F68 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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 | Birth - 7 Jan 1889 - Ash, Kent |
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 | Christening - 7 Apr 1889 - Ash next Sandwich, Kent |
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 | Death - 1973 - Melbourne, Australia |
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| Sources |
- [S3] BMD index.
- [S198] Cliff Minter, from Ash next Sandwich PR, August 2010.
- [S5] Margaret Young.
- [S216] Digger - South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1842-1916.
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