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Elsie Gwendoline Minter

Female 1889 - 1973  (83 years)

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  • Name Elsie Gwendoline Minter 
    Birth 7 Jan 1889  Ash, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    Christening 7 Apr 1889  Ash next Sandwich, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    Gender Female 
    Reference Number 163 
    _UID F3A2039DC3BB468DB35A893419A86976F09B 
    Death 1973  Melbourne, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3] 
    Notes 
    • 1911 census: Elsie Gwendoline (22, single, born Ash next Sandwich) was staying at The Warden Hotel, 105 High Street, Rye, Sussex. She worked for the Post Office as a postal sorting clerk & telegraphist.

      Elsie was witness at a trial at the Old Bailey on 10 September 1912. The following is from www.oldbaileyonline.org:

      ATKINS, Maria (39, laundress) , forging and uttering, knowing the same to be forged, a certain order for the payment of 10s., with intent to defraud.

      Mr. H. T. Hewett prosecuted.

      VIOLET KNOWLES . On July 15 I asked prisoner, who was living with me at 19, Sirdar Road, Notting Dale, Kensington, to take in a telegraphic money order, which I was expecting, and take care of it for me, and I would give her something for doing so. I then went out. Ten shillings money order produced is payable for me, and is signed "Violet Knowles, her mark." I never received that order; I did not sign it with my mark, nor did I authorise anybody to do so on my behalf. I next saw prisoner on the next morning, Tuesday, July 16, at 11.30; she was asleep; I woke her, and asked her if she had received the telegram, and where the telegram was. She seemed very dazed and stupid; she looked round and handed me a piece of blank brown paper. I threw it down and said'it was no good. I asked her would she tell me the amount of the order. She said it was for 10s. I asked her how much money she had left. She said it would he all right, and searched under the pillows and the corners of her bed, but there was not a copper in the room. I then called in a policeman, and she was arrested. Prisoner was quite sober when I first told her about the money order; she was not sober when I woke her up next day.

      ELSIE GWENDOLINE MINTER , clerk, Norland Square Post Office. On July 16, between 8 and 9 a.m., prisoner tendered money order produced, saying "Will you cash this for me?"I asked her what was the sender's name, and she replied correctly. I then asked her to sign it; she said she could not write, could she make her cross. I said "You are Violet Knowles?"She said "Yes." She then made her cross, I paid her the 10s., and she went away.

      Detective DONALD MACMILLAN, F Division. On July 16, at about 8.30 p.m., I was at the Notting Dale Police Station when prisoner was brought in and charged with forging a telegraphic order. She said, "I will stand all the racket of it, I took the letter in, and I changed it this morning and spent the money; it is nothing to do with
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      Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I am guilty of it; I was quite drunk, and remember nothing of it; I never signed the order."

      MARIA ATKINS (prisoner, not on oath). I am very sorry, I have never done it before.

      Verdict, Guilty.

      Prisoner was stated to be addicted to drink, and to have been four times convicted of drunkenness.

      Sentence: Three months' hard labour."

      Per findmypast.com Elsie Gwendoline, 28, departed in 1915 from Southampton for Adelaide, Australia.
    Person ID I163  Ash, Kent
    Last Modified 15 Dec 2020 

    Father Albert Edward Minter,   b. 14 Sep 1860, Worth, Kent Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 Mar 1939, Ash, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 78 years) 
    Mother Rosa Eastes CAVELL,   b. 17 Feb 1861, Deal, Kent Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1 Mar 1939, Eastry RD Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 78 years) 
    Marriage 20 Dec 1887  St Leonards Deal, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    • Married by banns. Albert a bachelor market gardener age 27 of Ash; Rosa a spinster age 26 of Wellington Road, Deal daughter of Thomas Eastes Cavell an accountant. sign/sign. Thos E Cavell, Celia H Cavell, Jessie A Cavell, G R witnesses.
    Family ID F68  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family William Arthur CAESAR,   b. 1890, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1980, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 90 years) 
    Marriage 20 Oct 1915  St Paul Church, Adelaide, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4] 
    Children 
     1. Iris Hazel CAESAR,   b. 2 Aug 1918, Mildura, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 16 Jan 2006, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 87 years)
     2. Betty Margaret CAESAR,   b. 1925, Australia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1933 (Age 8 years)
    Family ID F70  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2011 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 7 Jan 1889 - Ash, Kent Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristening - 7 Apr 1889 - Ash next Sandwich, Kent Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 1973 - Melbourne, Australia Link to Google Earth
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    Elsie Gwendoline Minter
    Elsie Gwendoline Minter
    born 1889, Ash, Kent, eldest daughter of Albert Edward Minter

  • Sources 
    1. [S3] BMD index.

    2. [S198] Cliff Minter, from Ash next Sandwich PR, August 2010.

    3. [S5] Margaret Young.

    4. [S216] Digger - South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1842-1916.