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William Minter

Male Abt 1814 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name William Minter 
    Born Abt 1814  Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 25FACABE624448C6B56ED6EE49CE93907C8A 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • There are uncertainties in this family's history. What appears here is my best estimation of the story and is based on the following.

      1. When the family first appeared here its head was Mary Ann Minter, who appeared in the 1861 census with three children, Charlotte, Emily and William. Mary Ann's marital status wasn't shown and at that point there was little indication of the identity of her husband. The best clues are that when daughters Emily married in 1873 and Caroline in 1878 they gave their father's name as William Minter, labourer (1873) and coal heaver (1878) (they didn't indicate whether their father was alive or not).

      2. More recently (August 2014) further items of information have come to light which show pretty conclusively that Mary Ann's husband was William Minter and that Mary Ann's maiden name was NORTON:
      - the 1841 birth certificate for Caroline Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
      - the 1856 birth certificate for Emily Minter, father William Minter, labourer, mother Mary Minter formerly Norton.
      - an 1851 census entry, recorded as HUNTER, which includes William (37) and Mary (25) and daughters Caroline (9) and Mary (4), living at 25 Lawrence Street, Chelsea.
      - an 1841 census entry for William Minter, Charlotte NORTON and her children George (18), Caroline (16) and Mary (15), all living at the same address in Lewers Building, Chelsea. Lewers Building appears to have been in Lawrence Street. This Mary Norton is almost certainly she who became William Minter's wife. The only thing missing is a marriage certificate or entry in the BMD index, suggesting that William and Mary might not actually have married.

      There remain some unanswered questions:
      - who were William's parents? There's a case to be made for William being the son of Henry and Elizabeth Minter, as well as being the brother of Matthew Minter, currently the 'head' of the Chelsea group. The following baptisms appear in the baptismal register of St Luke's, Chelsea:
      - 4 Jan 1818, born 7 Oct 1817, Henry William son of Henry & Elizabeth, Kingshott Brompton, sailor. This is a mystifying entry - 'Kingshott Brompton' appears to be an address but I can find no such place. On the other hand. Kingshott was the maiden name of the Elizabeth who married Henry Minter in St Martin in the Fields on 13 Feb 1817 - see the Thanet group.
      - 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Apr 1823, Matthew son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
      - 2 Nov 1828, born 11 Aug 1827, Mary daughter of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
      - 30 Jan 1831, born 1 Jan 1831, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.
      - 28 Mar 1832, born 10 Mar 1832, John son of Henry & Elizabeth, Cook's Ground, chaff cutter.

      - William and Mary were probably the parents of the following children but birth certificates are needed to verify this:
      - Jane, registered in the same quarter and with the same reg. number as Caroline, and therefore probably a twin; she died aged 8 in Q4 1849
      - William George, registered Q2 1844, died aged 5 in Q4 1849. William and Jane were definitely siblings and were buried together on 27 December 1849
      - Sidney, registered Q3 1851, not found subsequently.

      - there's no sign of William Minter's death, which probably occurred between 1865 and 1871 (when Mary was described as a widow in that year's census).

      Mary Ann first appears (as Mary) in the 1861 census at 18 Lombard Street, Chelsea. Her position in the household is not stated; marital status appears to be 'Mar' (married). Aged 38, charwoman, born Fulham. With Mary were 2 daughters and a son, all born Chelsea, Charlotte (19) [in the light of later censuses, this age looks wrong], Emily (5) and William (2).

      In 1871 Mary, now stated to be a widow aged 43, charwoman, born W Kensington, lived at 85 Ifield Road, Kensington. The comment 'ill health' could relate to Mary but is written on the same line as her daughter Charlotte, whose age was given as 18. Two other daughters were also present, Emily (15) and 'Marg' (5). No sign of William - he might have died in Q3 1864.

      In 1881 Mary was living at 25 Portman Road, Chelsea. She was a widow, aged 54, a charwoman. Living with her were her daughter Charlotte OWEN (26, married) and her granddaughter Florence MINTER (9), presumably Charlotte's illegitimate daughter. Florence is noted as being deaf & dumb.
    Person ID I9  Chelsea (2), London
    Last Modified 12 Sep 2014 

    Family Mary Ann NORTON,   b. Abt 1826, Fulham, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1884, Fulham RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years) 
    Children 
     1. Jane Minter,   b. Dec 1841, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 27 Dec 1849, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 8 years)
     2. Caroline Minter,   b. 1 Dec 1841, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1891, Hendon RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 49 years)
     3. William George Minter,   b. Jun 1844, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 27 Dec 1849, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 5 years)
     4. Mary Ann Minter,   b. Jun 1847, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. Sidney Minter,   b. Sep 1851, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Charlotte Minter,   b. Between 1853 and 1855, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Emily Minter,   b. 1 Mar 1856, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1876, Fulham RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 20 years)
     8. William George Minter,   b. Jun 1859, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1864, St George Hanover Square RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 5 years)
     9. Margaret Famey Minter,   b. Dec 1865, Chelsea, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1878, Fulham RD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 13 years)
    Last Modified 11 Sep 2014 11:18:00 
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