Abt 1778 - Yes, date unknown
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Name |
George Minter |
Birth |
Abt 1778 |
Parham Hall, Suffolk |
Gender |
Male |
_UID |
A8C8CA7AF8B84F099AA66A07654005CAE186 |
Death |
Yes, date unknown |
Notes |
- 1841 census: in Bredfield Street, Marlesford, George (64, tailor) and Ann (58).
1851 census: in Bredfield Street, Marlesford, George (73, journeyman taylor) and Ann (68, vegetable seller).
The justification for treating George as the father of William and John is as follows:
John Minter was born about 1817 in Ipswich and was married twice, firstly to Sophia (probably Sophia SALMON, on 3 June 1834 at Aldeburgh with Hazlewood, Suffolk) and later to Mary Ann EMMERSON (on 29 December 1859, at Ipswich Register Office).
The marriage certificate for this second marriage shows John's father as George Minter (deceased), tailor. So I started to look for a possible candidate for John's father and came up with a George Minter, who appears in 1841 as a tailor, with his wife Ann, in Bredfield Street, Woodbridge, and in 1851, still with Ann, still a tailor and still in Bredfield Street. Taken altogether, I feel fairly sure that John was the son of George of Bredfield Street.
I cannot find the death registrations of either George or Ann. A George Minter's death was registered in Q2 1852 at Woodbridge but I don't think this relates to the George since findmypast.co.uk has a corresponding burial record which gives age at death as 30 and place as Melton, Suffolk.
I then noticed something interesting. In 1841 George and Ann were, as already noted, living in Bredfield Street, Woodbridge. In the house to one side of their house lived Richard DUNNETT, his wife Mary and a Henry MINTER, aged 3; in the house to the other side lived John WRIGHT, his wife Mary and a James MINTER, aged 11. I wondered who Henry and James belonged to and, to cut a long story short, came to the conclusion that they were two of the children of William Minter and his wife Rebecca (nee WRIGHT). William currently heads the Marlesford section of the website and it's noticeable that Henry and James weren't with Rebecca when the 1841 census was taken (Rebecca's husband had died the previous year). It seems highly probable that George of Bredfield Street was William of Marlesford's father.
There is a bit more which supports this idea: the WRIGHT family. It looks from the IGI as if William WRIGHT and Priscilla (nee BUTTON) had 7 children in all, the first 3 in Bredfield, Suffolk (about 3 miles north of Woodbridge) and the last 4 in Eyke. Of these, Mary (bap. 1 Jun 1795 in Bredfield) married Richard DUNNETT; Rebecca (bap. 10 Dec 1797 in Bredfield) married William MINTER; and John (bap. 3 May 1910 in Eyke) married Mary (possibly Mary FISHER). There is some significance about a couple of these names - firstly, one of William and Rebecca's sons was named Richard Dunnett Minter and secondly, one of William and Rebecca's daughters was named Priscilla. I've not been able to find out why another of William and Rebecca's sons was given the second name Bryant.
The following email was written on 18 February 2008 by Thom Fowler in Canada. It should be read as a follow-on to the notes above:
Dear John: Having recently discovered that my 4th-great-grand-aunt Mary Muskett married Richard Minter at Roydon [near Diss] in 1774, I have been having a look at your Minter Family Website. James Bryant Minter caught my eye because my connexion to the Muskett family is through my great-grandfather Eugene Charles Bryant's grandfather Charles Muskett of Fersfield. I just now discovered a marriage on the IGI which might be the source of James Bryant Minter's middle-name:
JOHN MINTER & ANN BRYANT
Marriage: 08 OCT 1799 Hacheston, Suffolk, England
Note Hacheston is contiguous with Marlesford
So far I have no idea who Ann Bryant's parents were, but it is quite possible that John and Ann were William Minter's parents. I also read your theories about George Minter of Parham. I wonder if George Minter and John Minter were brothers. Parham vicarage was annexed to that of Hacheston according to The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland [1868]. Parham and Hacheston are one mile apart, while Marlesford is two miles distant from both Parham and Hacheston. So far I know of no Bryant-Dunnett marriage that could account for Richard Dunnett Minter's middle-name. I know that Rebecca Wright Minter's sister Mary married Richard Dunnett, but it would be highly unusual for a couple to use a brother-in-law's surname as a middle-name for one their sons . Perhaps there is another Dunnett connexion further back in Rebecca Wright Minter's and Mary Wright Dunnett's Wright ancestry. I did a bit of trolling on the IGI but had no luck finding a Wright-Dunnett marriage, but alas the search-engine doesn't allow one to search just on the two surnames for a marriage. On the Button side the other surnames I have so far unearthed are Thompson and King.
Further note, October 2011: John Minter and Ann Bryant apparently had two children, both baptised at Hacheston, Frances on 4 May 1800 (on the IGI) and William on 6 March 1803 (in Ancestry's Parish Register collection).
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Person ID |
I76 |
Marlesford, Suffolk |
Last Modified |
23 Jul 2020 |
Family |
Ann, b. Abt 1783, Orford, Suffolk d. Yes, date unknown |
Children |
| 1. William Minter, b. Abt 1803 d. Bef 15 Apr 1840, Marlesford, Suffolk (Age ~ 37 years) |
| 2. John Minter, b. Abt 1814, Ipswich, Suffolk d. Bef 15 May 1878, Ipswich, Suffolk (Age ~ 64 years) |
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Family ID |
F10 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
8 Sep 2009 |
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